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Post by Robert Braun on Nov 28, 2007 8:39:12 GMT -5
After some considerable digging, I have concluded that the Indian commander on the white poney, who yelled in a loud voice to his soldiers, was probably NOT Black Hawk.
Bob.
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Post by pshrake on Nov 30, 2007 22:39:52 GMT -5
OK Bob,
Ill Bite- who WAS the Indian leader on the white pony?
Pete
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Post by Robert Braun on Dec 4, 2007 14:48:41 GMT -5
Good question!
Black Hawk doesn't claim it was him. None of the American commentators claimed it was Black Hawk. Many of those simply identified the figure as the "Indian commander." Many moderns assume that this means it was Black Hawk... I disagree.
Reason: there is no evidence that BH rode his wounded horse to the crest of "Black Hawk Mound" and back to the river.
We continue to ponder...
Bob.
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Post by Larry Koschkee on Dec 15, 2007 22:18:49 GMT -5
A case can be made that Pashetowat was the Indian commander on "the white poney."
Pashetowat was a high ranking WAR CHIEF in Black Hawk's band and there is evidence that he rode a white horse and most likely was at Wisconsin Heights.
On the 15th of June, 1832 Captain Adam Snyder's Illinois Militia encountered Pashetowat near Kellogg's Grove in a skirmish with an estimated thirty warriors ( later determined to be part of a larger group of 80 warriors).
"During this engagement an Indian who rode a white horse, and who acted as commander of the party..."
1st Lieutenant, U. S. Infantry, Joseph S. Gallagher wrote a letter to his brother about the skirmish near Kellogg's Grove.
"You have no doubt heard that the Sac War is at an end - all the principal chiefs and braves except Black Hawk and the little Stabbing Chief have been killed or taken - even Neapape and the young war chief who was so consipicuous in several fights riding a fine white horse, and in that acct. supposed by some to be Black Hawk..."
Robert Anderson's memoranda of prisioners at Rock Island indicates:
"4. Pa-she-to-waat - the Liar - kid. at the Missi.
(rode white horse at Kellgs)
It is not clear that Pashetowat was at Wisconsin Heights, but most likely he was. Pashetowat was at Kellogg's Grove and killed at the Battle of Bad Axe so it is a good bet that he was with Black Hawk through it all.
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Post by Larry Koschkee on Dec 15, 2007 22:36:15 GMT -5
If Black Hawk was not barking orders on "Black Hawk Mound," on what "rise of a hill" was he positioned before he was driven "into a deep ravine" ?
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