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Post by Mike Thorson on Jul 8, 2002 20:35:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know exactly where ground=penetrating radar was used in an unsuccessful attempt to locate the grave of Pvt. Short, the only Militia KIA at Wisconsin Heights? And if someone does know roughly, or exactly where they looked, WHY did they look there?
Anyone know of any other remains found on the site at any time?
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Post by Robert Braun on Aug 2, 2002 9:16:38 GMT -5
Hey Pete Shrake! We might have a mission for you...
Does the historical records of Sauk County contain an image taken at the Wisconsin Heights battlefield by a photographer named Coe?
Purportedly, the image was taken in the early 1900's.
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Post by Peter Shrake on Aug 2, 2002 22:46:09 GMT -5
There is a image that does exist of the battlefield, the photographer was H.E. Cole. Cole, one might remember, was the author of the classic book "Stage Coach and Tavern Days in the Old North West." He was also president of the State Historical Society for 6 years, real good friends with the likes of Louise Phelps Kellogg, and as fortune would have it the founder of the Sauk County Historical Society, for wich I am ever grateful.
Cole was a newspaper man by trade and was quite the ameteur photographer. We have an extensive collection of his glass negatives as well as other original research material.
Now that you have heard all of my hot air here, I am embarrased to say that we do not have the image in question. At least I do not think so. We have approximately 12,000 photos in our collection. I have been looking for that very image for at least a year and have not found it yet. It is possible that the State has it. It is also possible that a local expert on the battlefield, a friend of mine, might have a scanned copy. I will redouble my efforts, talk with my friend and see what I can find.
Pete
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Post by Robert Braun on Sept 15, 2005 11:40:06 GMT -5
There is a image that does exist of the battlefield, the photographer was H.E. Cole. Cole, one might remember, was the author of the classic book "Stage Coach and Tavern Days in the Old North West." He was also president of the State Historical Society for 6 years, real good friends with the likes of Louise Phelps Kellogg, and as fortune would have it the founder of the Sauk County Historical Society, for wich I am ever grateful. Cole was a newspaper man by trade and was quite the ameteur photographer. We have an extensive collection of his glass negatives as well as other original research material. Now that you have heard all of my hot air here, I am embarrased to say that we do not have the image in question. At least I do not think so. We have approximately 12,000 photos in our collection. I have been looking for that very image for at least a year and have not found it yet. It is possible that the State has it. It is also possible that a local expert on the battlefield, a friend of mine, might have a scanned copy. I will redouble my efforts, talk with my friend and see what I can find. Pete Pete, any luck with locating this image? I think I know where there is a smallish photocopy of the image, which might help... Bob. |
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Post by pshrake on Sept 15, 2005 22:01:08 GMT -5
Hi Bob,
I have never given up looking. Unfortunately continued searches through out photo collections have yet to turn up anything. One problem is I have never actually seen a copy of the image. I would love to see the photocopy. It is quite possible that the image was mislabled when it was filed into our collections. We have over 11,000 historical images, and a large collection of H.E. Coles glass plate negaitves. I still do not give up hope in finding it. My expreince is that these things show up in due time or, as in a recent case, redonated back to the museum by the very person or organization that "borrowed" it years before.
If you could lay your hands on that photocopy and send a copy my way It could really help the search.
Pete
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Post by Robert Braun on Apr 23, 2007 12:52:03 GMT -5
While Pete continues to look for the H. E. Cole image either in or borrowed from the Sauk County Historical Society, efforts aimed at elucidating the vicinity of Short's presumptive grave site may, at last, prove successful.
In addition, I believe that Short was buried where he fell; his body was probably not brought back to the militia camp, as a few persons have suggested.
Bob.
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Post by wfwenzel on Mar 27, 2017 5:36:36 GMT -5
Does anyone know exactly where ground=penetrating radar was used in an unsuccessful attempt to locate the grave of Pvt. Short, the only Militia KIA at Wisconsin Heights? And if someone does know roughly, or exactly where they looked, WHY did they look there? Anyone know of any other remains found on the site at any time? I wasn't invited to the search, although I know more about the grounds than most. It was a curiously casual affair and seemed to have some other purpose. I can't imagine why it couldn't be found if enough time was put in. The area is, according to Cole, fairly small and at his time wouldn't be locally forgotten yet. I did come across a newspaper clipping at the Sauk Co. HS recounting surface bones a few decades after the battle. It was the recollection of a man who played there as a boy. |
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Post by wfwenzel on Apr 18, 2017 11:26:49 GMT -5
While Pete continues to look for the H. E. Cole image either in or borrowed from the Sauk County Historical Society, efforts aimed at elucidating the vicinity of Short's presumptive grave site may, at last, prove successful. In addition, I believe that Short was buried where he fell; his body was probably not brought back to the militia camp, as a few persons have suggested. Bob. I agree with Bob. He would have had to been moved across the creek and up the rather steep slope to do that. Furthermore, Cole puts it by the base of the hill when he visited it. |
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